tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7985429043801017839.post7486812357571450214..comments2023-10-27T07:50:27.411+01:00Comments on Next Left: How Dave (finally) came out as a Thatcherite - and why it might not be so clever after allTom Hampsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05917325958130851128noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7985429043801017839.post-52970029498578651552010-12-06T11:46:36.881+00:002010-12-06T11:46:36.881+00:0013eastie:
So what? We share about 60% of our DNA ...13eastie:<br /><br />So what? We share about 60% of our DNA with fruitflies, but that doesn’t make me one.<br /><br />As when we spoke before about tuition fees, you’re creating a suspect class (in this case ‘red’ unions and their puppets) where you ought to be making an argument.Zio Bastonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18066899839752174167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7985429043801017839.post-62211772381971894512010-12-06T08:35:45.871+00:002010-12-06T08:35:45.871+00:00Zio:
HE IS THE UNIONS' MAN. DEAD SIMPLE.
&qu...Zio:<br /><br />HE IS THE UNIONS' MAN. DEAD SIMPLE.<br /><br />"he is more blue then red" - is this one of the "prejudices" you're getting your knickers in a twist over?13eastiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05162940753429246157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7985429043801017839.post-19032095827811877382010-12-03T19:50:11.975+00:002010-12-03T19:50:11.975+00:0013eastie
So the answer, in fact, is none. Just wh...13eastie<br /><br />So the answer, in fact, is none. Just what you call an assumption and others might call a prejudice unimpeded by obervation.<br /><br />That is rather what I thought.Zio Bastonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18066899839752174167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7985429043801017839.post-81380708470185869992010-12-03T15:38:47.785+00:002010-12-03T15:38:47.785+00:00...and happy to trade Thatcher's grandchild fo......and happy to trade Thatcher's grandchild for the grandson of the manse...13eastiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05162940753429246157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7985429043801017839.post-38815380105576528442010-12-03T13:08:37.841+00:002010-12-03T13:08:37.841+00:00Coming up with policies at a rate of less than one...Coming up with policies at a rate of less than one per year, it's difficult not to assume that, having been 'elected' by the unions' block and no-one else, Red Ed is to be expected to make good on some sort of promise to them.<br /><br />I'll be very happy to stop calling him Red Ed when this state of affairs changes and also when people stop getting wound up by it - otherwise people are making it stick.13eastiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05162940753429246157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7985429043801017839.post-32429868224919720852010-12-03T12:55:10.568+00:002010-12-03T12:55:10.568+00:00What is red about Ed, not a lot for god sake, he i...What is red about Ed, not a lot for god sake, he is more blue then red.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05186557603493331701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7985429043801017839.post-27076205586704428622010-12-03T12:49:58.034+00:002010-12-03T12:49:58.034+00:00Bloody hell how many kids did Thatcher have, we al...Bloody hell how many kids did Thatcher have, we all know Blair was the son of Thatcher, brown was the bits and bobs left over, now Cameron.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05186557603493331701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7985429043801017839.post-2513674794727843852010-12-02T17:08:10.281+00:002010-12-02T17:08:10.281+00:0013eastie
As the 'heir to Blair', he ough...13eastie <br /><br />As the 'heir to Blair', he ought to be Thatcher's grandchild.<br /><br />Why do you keep calling Ed Milliband 'Red' by the way? What 'red' features do you discern?Zio Bastonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18066899839752174167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7985429043801017839.post-92047716636822126732010-12-02T14:24:17.852+00:002010-12-02T14:24:17.852+00:00Why all the fuss about this?
Yes, Cameron gave Re...Why all the fuss about this?<br /><br />Yes, Cameron gave Red Ed a(nother) comprehensive walloping in PMQ's.<br /><br />Yes, Red Ed had nothing to say in particular about anything - desperate to accuse the Tories of being stuck in the past, but unable to do so without bringing up Thatcher who quit 20 years ago (demonstrating a New New Labour variation on Godwin's Law in the process).<br /><br />All he said was that being a child of Thatcher would be preferable to being the son of Brown.<br /><br />It's not a terribly instructive statement.<br /><br />It's a bit like saying being a child of Thatcher would be preferable to attempting to hammer one's own testicles flat.13eastiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05162940753429246157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7985429043801017839.post-64744064312069855662010-12-01T20:25:39.088+00:002010-12-01T20:25:39.088+00:00"I note he apologises for the crassness of ex..."I note he apologises for the crassness of experimenting on Scotland first on the poll tax, without making a substantive criticism of the poll tax."<br /><br />My understanding is that Scotland wasn't used as an experiment. It was introduced there before England due to an upcoming rate revaluation that couldn't be postponed which would have made the rates much more expensive. The poll tax was therefore introduced early to avoid this. Fat lot of good that it did.no longer anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17832752807489967541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7985429043801017839.post-58747488180440488342010-12-01T19:16:58.683+00:002010-12-01T19:16:58.683+00:00Stop trying to mask the grave error by the son of ...Stop trying to mask the grave error by the son of the son of the manse. This was a major reverse today.<br /><br />Now if the Guardian reveal anything negative of Brown (doubt it as heavily censored)THE SON OF THE SON OF THE MANSE will be in big trouble as it will be open season.<br /><br />The son of the son of the manse must remove his but from the spiked fence, i know he likes the feeling, but he has to remove it and get a backboneThe Purplelinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13824474829595685623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7985429043801017839.post-21817771311022805512010-12-01T18:57:00.746+00:002010-12-01T18:57:00.746+00:00I am going to accept those: you win the prize! Fre...I am going to accept those: you win the prize! Free access to the blog or something (!)<br /><br />I note he apologises for the crassness of experimenting on Scotland first on the poll tax, without making a substantive criticism of the poll tax.<br /><br />Section 28: he had done well in this area.<br /><br />The telling quote is the third one: "the only area"<br /><br />Indeed, that piece also says<br /><br />"<br /><br />"The second lesson from Margaret Thatcher concerns the method of change. Never forget the slow, clever way in which she went about preparing for her struggle with Arthur Scargill - she declined battle until Britain had a sufficient stockpile of coal to withstand a long strike. In politics, conviction and canniness are excellent partners".<br /><br />A gradualist Thatcherite? Doubly dangerous?Sunder Katwalahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06671411534003530927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7985429043801017839.post-72727285808269944812010-12-01T18:51:30.425+00:002010-12-01T18:51:30.425+00:00There are a few more examples of Cameron distancin...There are a few more examples of Cameron distancing himself from Thatcher (and Major also, if we want to look at Thatcherism as being Thatcher-Major). Three that came to mind:<br /><br />Poll tax (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2006/sep/16/conservatives.politics)<br /><br />Section 28 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196924/Cameron-apologises-gays-Section-28-Maggies-law-ban-promotion-homosexuality-schools-wrong-says-Tory-leader.html)<br /><br />Centralisation: 'The only area of Margaret Thatcher's legacy I regret is the centralisation of government which was performed in those days.' (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1895692/David-Cameron-My-Margaret-Thatcher.html).JMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06564977377436452245noreply@blogger.com