In that case, it is good to see that both Miliband brothers trying hard to appeal to their mother and other Cruddasites too.
David Miliband gave his own official campaign launch speech today in South Shields. Here he was talking to The Observer on Sunday
He's taught me a lot, Jon Cruddas. He's been talking about housing for a long time. He's been talking about community organising for a long time. He's fought the BNP. I think uniting different talents is an important job. Because it's not ideologically riven, this party. There's enough shades to make it interesting but I don't see incompatibilities."
"That offers not so much an olive branch to the left as an olive grove", write Andrew Rawnsley and Toby Helm.
And there seemed to be two significant 'Cruddasite' influences on Ed Miliband's Fabian speech on Saturday too.
Firstly, the (entirely accurate) account of New Labour's radical achievements as mostly belonging to the 1997-2001 first term, and the policies developed in opposition, followed by a loss of radicalism as the party failed to renew in power.
After the financial crisis, the party leadership was at pains not to talk about bankers' rewards for failure in anything like the tone that Blair and Brown used about "fat cats" in the privatised utilities in 1996-97. It would have been too "Old Labour" to be New Labour circa 1996!
Secondly, the argument about immigration "as a class issue", about which Jon Cruddas talks in detail to Prospect in an online interview with David Goodhart.